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we've got sequestration coming, we've got the debt ceiling coming again we have to deal with in may. your article, this is a heck of a title, once unthinkable severe spending cuts now seem plausible, how so? >> t.j., what we saw in the congress was a few years ago they put together such big budget cuts, $1.2 trillion in cuts split 50-50 between military spending and domestic spending. and those were so big that everybody agreed at the time that there was no way we would do kind of this across the board budget ax. we're going to come back, we're going to rethink this and we're going to try to get those savings in a more -- in a smarter way. and that hope as it were is pretty much shot now when you talk to the republicans and democrats in the congress. republicans believe many of the deficit hawks out there believe this is the best chance they have for cutting spending. it's going to become law on march 1st. it's already on the way to taking effect. and democrats are happy to replace some of those cuts, particularly in the military side, but they want to do it with tax increases which
we've got sequestration coming, we've got the debt ceiling coming again we have to deal with in may. your article, this is a heck of a title, once unthinkable severe spending cuts now seem plausible, how so? >> t.j., what we saw in the congress was a few years ago they put together such big budget cuts, $1.2 trillion in cuts split 50-50 between military spending and domestic spending. and those were so big that everybody agreed at the time that there was no way we would do kind of this...
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cameron says "deeocrats say they won this round because the debt ceiling will go up in may ithout spending cuts. repubbicans counter that ggttinn senate democrats to agree to a bbdget by april mans for the may be able to show some degree of fiscal discipline.. in washington, carr camerrn, fox neww." 3 3 3 a ccimeesolved as soon as it happened. the as they ripped a lotttrr machine out of this ssore. 3 a teacher could be fired oer duct tape and facebook. the claasroom joke that could end her career. 3 33 33 3 3 3 common sense [ male announcer #1 ] verizon fios is the fastest internet in america. just ask pc mag. [ male announcer #2 ] cable can't touch fios upload speeds. it's hard to imagine anyone ever beating fios. there's no doubt fios is the fastest in the country. [ male announcer #1 ] after 110,000 speed tests, nothing came close to fios. upgrade now and get fios internet, tv and phone for a great price online... just $89.99 a month with a two-year agreement. plus $300 back. don't miss this last chance. our 100% fiber-optic network can deliver america's fastest, most consistent, most r
cameron says "deeocrats say they won this round because the debt ceiling will go up in may ithout spending cuts. repubbicans counter that ggttinn senate democrats to agree to a bbdget by april mans for the may be able to show some degree of fiscal discipline.. in washington, carr camerrn, fox neww." 3 3 3 a ccimeesolved as soon as it happened. the as they ripped a lotttrr machine out of this ssore. 3 a teacher could be fired oer duct tape and facebook. the claasroom joke that could...
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no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt ceiling for about three months, it also requires the house and senate to pass budget resolutions by april 15th, and if they don't, representatives and senators will not get paid, which is of course, wildly unconstitutional. the 27th amendment prohibits congress from modifying their own paychecks in any way. they can vote to change the pay for future congress only, but republicans passing an unconstitutional bill, while at the same time relieving the pressure on the debt ceiling was welcomed by some democrats as republicans moving from out-right crazy to half-crazy. >> i'm not sure w
no budget, no pay. >> in the spotlight tonight, debt ceiling magic. that was house speaker john boehner after the house passed a bill making the debt ceiling disappear until may 18th, without cutting any federal spending. the stupidly named and conceived "no budget, no pay act" passed with a vote. 33 republicans voted against the bill, 199 voted for it. 86 democrats voted for the bill, 111 democrats voted against it. not only will the no budget, no pay act suspend the debt...
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. >> congress extended the debt ceiling, that they have yet to prevent big spending cuts. >> 800,000 civilians will lose their jobs. bases will have to be closed. the grants will have to be stopped. >> that could add to the unemployment numbers announced today. we also expect to get hard figures on how many people are out of work. tracie potts from washington, back to you. >> if you have the flu, stay away from fido. how you can protect your furry friends. a traveling band with a lot of heart. heart. [ telephone rings ] good evening, this is flo. [laughs] yes, i'm that flo. aren't you sweet! licensed phone-ups available 24/7. call 1-800-progressive. >> in this afternoon's medical alert, any at owner knows if you fall ill there is nothing better than snuggling up with your pet , but flu sufferers should not get too close. >> 14 cats and one dog has been sick and or died from the h1n1 flu virus since 2006, possibly spread by humans. this dr. from organs -- oregon state university said researchers do not know for sure if the seasonal flu can be transmitted to pets. >> the strain that wa
. >> congress extended the debt ceiling, that they have yet to prevent big spending cuts. >> 800,000 civilians will lose their jobs. bases will have to be closed. the grants will have to be stopped. >> that could add to the unemployment numbers announced today. we also expect to get hard figures on how many people are out of work. tracie potts from washington, back to you. >> if you have the flu, stay away from fido. how you can protect your furry friends. a traveling...
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it comes out of the debt ceiling deal in 2011 and it was the backup to the supercommittee. and way it was designed, it was originally supposed to be half taxes and half spending cuts. so both sides would be terrified of letting it happen, and because they were so terrified of letting it happen, they would come to a deal. the point of the sequester was to get the two sides to a deal. but republicans wouldn't allow tax increases, even in the sequester. and so they made this weird deal with democrats. and they said, okay, the sequester has to be all spending cuts. but because we're not giving you any taxes, they can mostly be spending cuts you don't mind and that we really hate. so half of the sequester, a full half of it is defense. that is a huge, huge cut to defense. but it's actually worse than that for republicans. medicaid is completely protected from the sequester. social security, completely protected. most low-income programs, completely protected. medicaid beneficiaries, completely protected. veterans benefits, completely protected. pell grants, completely protected.
it comes out of the debt ceiling deal in 2011 and it was the backup to the supercommittee. and way it was designed, it was originally supposed to be half taxes and half spending cuts. so both sides would be terrified of letting it happen, and because they were so terrified of letting it happen, they would come to a deal. the point of the sequester was to get the two sides to a deal. but republicans wouldn't allow tax increases, even in the sequester. and so they made this weird deal with...
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that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase, let alone any future increases. we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put this in context and think about what congressman ryan from wisconsin is really saying. republicans backed off their debt limit threat because they knew it was a political loser. and now they seem to be backing off their threat to shut down the government. sequester? well, that's another matter. if congress does nothing, the cuts take effect. republicans don't want defense cuts, but they might be willing to stomach those cuts because domestic programs would also get slashed, including medicare. and that's what republicans really want. let's turn to barney frank, former massachusetts c
that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase, let alone any future increases. we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put...
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take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes necessary to reinstitute the talking filibuster even through the so-called nuclear option, even though everyone seems to want it. the last hope in filibuster reform is harry reid's great compromise of needing 41 votes to maintain a filibuster but i'm confident that the democrats will find some way to back down from that, too. joining me now the only one and only michael tomasky. starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to the g.o.p. >> i think the latter and i
take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes...
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. >> reporter: there will be several skirmishes where the republicans can try out their focus, debt ceiling, and automatic spending cuts set to kick in august 1. but don't count on up compromise. >> we think the sequesters will happen. >> reporter: congressman paul ryan says he's not encouraged by president obama's words so far. >> i decided to not comment between the election and inauguration because i wanted to see what kind of president we're looking at, what kind of path he was putting his administration on. and all of the statements and all the comments lead me to believe he's thinking more of a political conquest than compromise. >> reporter: democrats have been talking the hard line on revenues and gun control. yet on immigration, there seems to be at least a small agreement. >> we are trying to work our way through some very difficult issues. but we are committed to a comprehensive approach to finally in this country have an immigration law that we can live with. >> it's my hope we'll come up with a bipartisan solution. i do think enforcement has to be a big part of it. but again, i
. >> reporter: there will be several skirmishes where the republicans can try out their focus, debt ceiling, and automatic spending cuts set to kick in august 1. but don't count on up compromise. >> we think the sequesters will happen. >> reporter: congressman paul ryan says he's not encouraged by president obama's words so far. >> i decided to not comment between the election and inauguration because i wanted to see what kind of president we're looking at, what kind of...
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for every dollar increase in this debt ceiling we have to have a dollar in cuts to match that. the president said earlier this month, i'm not doing that anymore. we are not going to keep negotiating over the debt ceiling. this is our obligation over. the republicans have conceded the president had won the argument and are now -- this week they ebb extended the debt ceiling with no accompanied spending cuts. the republicans will cede that issue to him. >> your latest article, mitt romney i'm not going away. tell me. >> certainly was a little different. he came in to toub this weekend for the alfalfa dinner. we hadn't seen a lot from mitt romney since he lost in november. he to told donors that it was purposeful. he is not going anywhere. he will be active in 2013 and 2014s and in terms of 2016. although some sources said his personal ambition for public office are over. >> good to see you both today. thank you so much. >> thank you, t.j. >>> to the weather, the midwest is facing an ice threat. winter storm is dropping snow and freezing rain expected to bring icy conditions. powe
for every dollar increase in this debt ceiling we have to have a dollar in cuts to match that. the president said earlier this month, i'm not doing that anymore. we are not going to keep negotiating over the debt ceiling. this is our obligation over. the republicans have conceded the president had won the argument and are now -- this week they ebb extended the debt ceiling with no accompanied spending cuts. the republicans will cede that issue to him. >> your latest article, mitt romney...
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ceiling crisis. the measure suspended the cap on federal borrowing and establishes a new may 19 deadline. in return for this vote, democrats a promised a budget plan with the spending cuts. both sides say they're hoping for continued cooperation. they are expected to pass legislation to the house and president obama said he will sign it. they were encouraged -- investors were encouraged -- the dow closed at its highest level since october 2007, months before the start of the great recession. the nasdaq and the s&p 500 some modest gains. >> the security deal -- they are accused of using their detail for personal and political gain. mark walker testified that he was required to help with the county executive's reelection campaign. walker also claimed he kept watch as he engaged in sexual encounters with his mistress. he denies any wrongdoing -- testimony resumes tomorrow. >> jury selection took up again in the murder case. new questions about a person in that case -- the lead police detective. jim mill
ceiling crisis. the measure suspended the cap on federal borrowing and establishes a new may 19 deadline. in return for this vote, democrats a promised a budget plan with the spending cuts. both sides say they're hoping for continued cooperation. they are expected to pass legislation to the house and president obama said he will sign it. they were encouraged -- investors were encouraged -- the dow closed at its highest level since october 2007, months before the start of the great recession....
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dollar increase in the debt ceiling. but they're expected to go down in defeat. now the bill won't technically raise the debt ceiling but will spend it until may 19 when it will be raised by the amount the treasury borrows in the interim. meanwhile, a new report finds foreclosure activity rose in more than half of the biggest u.s. metro areas last year. but realty track says activity decreased from 2010 when foreclosures peaked in most markets. foreclosures dropped in 12 of the top 20 metro markets with the biggest declines in phoenix, san francisco, and detroit. the biggest increases were in tampa, miami, and baltimore. and what are the top market for buying a foreclosed home this year? realty track says your best bets are in jacksonville, chicago, and el paso, texas. >> all right. thank you. >>> we still haven't heard from livingsocial about reports that it had a tumultuous 2012. according to the "washington post," that d.c.-based online deal seller lost $650 million last year. the company also let go 10% of its work f
dollar increase in the debt ceiling. but they're expected to go down in defeat. now the bill won't technically raise the debt ceiling but will spend it until may 19 when it will be raised by the amount the treasury borrows in the interim. meanwhile, a new report finds foreclosure activity rose in more than half of the biggest u.s. metro areas last year. but realty track says activity decreased from 2010 when foreclosures peaked in most markets. foreclosures dropped in 12 of the top 20 metro...
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ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year. >> reporter: now, we have been asking our guests here for the riskometer. on this side we have is the u.s. a bigger threat to global growth in 2013. on this side the e.u. lutnic thinks the u.s. is by far the bigger. as you look overall most people still seem to believe europe is the biggest threat in 2013. by the way, speet tweet me wher think the biggest threat is. >> very official looking. did you make that yourself? >> don't you mock it? it works and it is doing a good job. >> we will have people tweet you and see what they feel about all of this but a lot of power players weighing in on whether or not there i
ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year....
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it is set to vote on a bill to athe debt ceiling to keep going up through the middle of may had a would delay the ex-penned showdown between democrats and republicans over spending cuts. the house passed a bill last week. >>> president obama says he will sign it if it passes in the senate. >>> we are still following a developing story out of alabama. a-year-old boy is being held hostage and is now going on three days. here is what we know. 63-year-old man boarded a school bus tuesday after fatally shooting the bus driver. he grabbed the 5-year-old sxwoy pled the scene. police tracked the man down but says he has been holding the child hostage for more than 30 hours. neighbors of the man describe him as a loner and survivalist who distrust it is government. you can count on news4 for updates it is a story continues to unfold. >>> metro says it may need to review its procedures with d.c. fire after a chaotic evening commute. an insulator started smoking on the green line and the emergency responder cut the wrong electricity source. that left two trains stopped for hours between the anacos
it is set to vote on a bill to athe debt ceiling to keep going up through the middle of may had a would delay the ex-penned showdown between democrats and republicans over spending cuts. the house passed a bill last week. >>> president obama says he will sign it if it passes in the senate. >>> we are still following a developing story out of alabama. a-year-old boy is being held hostage and is now going on three days. here is what we know. 63-year-old man boarded a school bus...
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the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the nation's gun control debate, this could be the most polarizing issue. >> anybody can claim stand your ground and they could get away with murder. >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: yes indeed. equality moves to the front lines as the pentagon today lifts the ban on women in combat. big move. a great move. hello, everybody. happy, happy thursday and welcome, welcome to the "full court press." coming to you live all the way across this great l
the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the...
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and what would happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling right away? well, if we don't, we would have to have a 25% cut in all government spending, and that's -- that's pretty massive. that's pretty problematic. now, the administration and some actually go way overboard in the threats that they attach to this. they threaten to inflict the maximum possible economic damage if the debt ceiling isn't raised promptly upon the point at which they run out of their maneuvering room. so you hear threats about default on our debt and senior citizens won't get their social security check and our military folks won't get paid, all kinds of the most disruptive, most damaging and most dangerous kinds of outcomes are threatened by the administration. now, this is unnecessary, this isn't true, this isn't what would happen, but there is an incentive, of course, to try to scare and intimidate republicans into giving the administration the unconditional ability to just keep on borrowing and spending as they have been doing, and that's why we hear this. well, what my amen
and what would happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling right away? well, if we don't, we would have to have a 25% cut in all government spending, and that's -- that's pretty massive. that's pretty problematic. now, the administration and some actually go way overboard in the threats that they attach to this. they threaten to inflict the maximum possible economic damage if the debt ceiling isn't raised promptly upon the point at which they run out of their maneuvering room. so you hear threats...
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the treasury has warned the country could default on some loans as early as next month if the debt ceiling isn't lifted. >>> 6:48 now. a local company reporting major losses. they say the reason is defense cuts. cnbc has more live. kayla, good morning. >>> good morning, aaron. general dynamics, one of the nation's biggest federal contractors, reported a huge quarterly loss on wednesday, blaming it largely on defense cuts. the company which is based in falls church, virginia, posted a $2 billion fourth quarter loss on lower than expected sales as shrinking government orders and writedowns hammered the maker of weapon and aircraft. stock dropped as much as 5% in trading before recovering to close up about 1%. analyst attribute that to reassuring comments from the company ceo. >>> the washington's dependence on government and defense contracts makes it vulnerable to the spending cuts put in place by president obama and congress between 2000 and 2010. government procurement spending grew by double digits. last year it fell by more than 5%. back to you. >> thank you. >>> redskins players are be
the treasury has warned the country could default on some loans as early as next month if the debt ceiling isn't lifted. >>> 6:48 now. a local company reporting major losses. they say the reason is defense cuts. cnbc has more live. kayla, good morning. >>> good morning, aaron. general dynamics, one of the nation's biggest federal contractors, reported a huge quarterly loss on wednesday, blaming it largely on defense cuts. the company which is based in falls church, virginia,...
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i have said many times, i would oppose the budget control act which will raise the debt ceiling. in part, because the way the question provisions were written. they were unbalanced. 50% of our cuts come from the defense. it just cut everything by the same amount as opposed to give our military leaders the pentagon to cut from unsuccessful and outdated programs and put more money into the most successful and important programs. with that said, the only thing worse than the defense cuts and sequestration is no cuts at all. if we don't have the sequestration cuts at the top line revenue level went we will increase the debt ceiling with almost nothing to show for it. part of the reasons why the house republicans this week, extended the debt ceiling for three months to feel out paul ryan and his team to draft a budget that gets us balanced in 10 years but also protects the department of defense from further cuts because they have already been cut by $500 billion. >> do you get the idea, do you get the sense that americans are tired of world business. that doing some business here at h
i have said many times, i would oppose the budget control act which will raise the debt ceiling. in part, because the way the question provisions were written. they were unbalanced. 50% of our cuts come from the defense. it just cut everything by the same amount as opposed to give our military leaders the pentagon to cut from unsuccessful and outdated programs and put more money into the most successful and important programs. with that said, the only thing worse than the defense cuts and...
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. >> why did lawmakers decide it was best to delay having to debate raising the debt ceiling? >> well, it was a decision by house republican leaders a few weeks ago. they tried in 2011 to use the debt limit as a lynch -- leverage point to force obama to swallow spending u cuts. it worked but -- [inaudible] to something like 9%. and they recognize that it was a bad idea. i mean, gambling with the credit of the united it turned out is a bad idea. we were downgraded for the first time in nation's history. they department want to do that again. like i said, i didn't want to vote for a bigger national debt either. that doesn't fit with their philosophy. they came up with the strategy of saying we're going us is fend. and in the meantime, they want the senate to pass a budget for 2014 and the law salses that -- says that if either chamber fails to adopt a budget by april 15, the paychecks will be docked. the idea of the thing is to postpone the sort of economy raddling default situation until they can prosecute the continuing fight over taxes and spending to a point where, you know,
. >> why did lawmakers decide it was best to delay having to debate raising the debt ceiling? >> well, it was a decision by house republican leaders a few weeks ago. they tried in 2011 to use the debt limit as a lynch -- leverage point to force obama to swallow spending u cuts. it worked but -- [inaudible] to something like 9%. and they recognize that it was a bad idea. i mean, gambling with the credit of the united it turned out is a bad idea. we were downgraded for the first time...
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we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at you to but. [video clip] >> from what we heard yesterday, it is pretty clear to me -- it should be clear to all you he knows he cannot do any of that as long as the house is controlled by republicans. we are expecting over the next 22 months to be the focus of this administration as they attempt to annihilate the republican party. i do believe that is their goal. and just to shut us into the dustbin of history. host: these were remarks to the ripon society. they go on to write to that the transcripts or accurate, and noted that the speaker regularly attends the event. perhaps we will hear more about this in the
we want to remind you, in case you missed it, the house passed a bill yesterday suspending the debt ceiling. here is a baltimore sun piece. also on page 6 of "the baltimore sun" is a picture of john boehner and says -- they show the speaker in a photo saying it would cut the deficit twice as fast as other plants. the speaker is also out there making a speech to the society. the headline basically says this -- his focus is basically to annihilate the republican party. here's a look at...
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and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he thought it was deeply unjust. and at first he wants -- he wanted congress to be able to ve
and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give...